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	<title>Comments on: 07-Sep-08: Hamilton Stripped of Win, Glock Penalised Too</title>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.f1minute.com/2008/09/07/07-sep-08-hamilton-stripped-of-win-glock-penalised-too/#comment-1980</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How can we find out who had dry tires on the final lap?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good question, papi. At Spa or Brazil?

Spa - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70400

Brazil - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71970</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How can we find out who had dry tires on the final lap?</p></blockquote>
<p>Good question, papi. At Spa or Brazil?</p>
<p>Spa &#8211; <a href="http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70400" rel="nofollow">http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70400</a></p>
<p>Brazil &#8211; <a href="http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71970" rel="nofollow">http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71970</a></p>
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		<title>By: papi</title>
		<link>http://www.f1minute.com/2008/09/07/07-sep-08-hamilton-stripped-of-win-glock-penalised-too/#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator>papi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can we find out who had dry tires on the final lap?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can we find out who had dry tires on the final lap?<br />
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.f1minute.com/2008/09/07/07-sep-08-hamilton-stripped-of-win-glock-penalised-too/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s clear that the position was not given back - Hamilton raced Raikkonen all the way down the start/finish line.&quot;

What? How do you move BEHIND your opponent from the left of the track to the right of the track and not give back the position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s clear that the position was not given back &#8211; Hamilton raced Raikkonen all the way down the start/finish line.&#8221;</p>
<p>What? How do you move BEHIND your opponent from the left of the track to the right of the track and not give back the position?</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.f1minute.com/2008/09/07/07-sep-08-hamilton-stripped-of-win-glock-penalised-too/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clear that the position was not given back - Hamilton raced Raikkonen all the way down the start/finish line.

What is wrong is if race control told Martin Whitmarsh that the move was okay and then the stewards over-turned that decision after the race, when McLaren no longer had an opportunity to advise Lewis to properly give the place back.

I believe the appeal will show that McLaren were told over the radio that the move was okay, even if it wasn&#039;t, and re-instate Hamilton as the winner. If they had said the move wasn&#039;t okay he could have given the place back before Eau Rouge and would have passed Kimi again long before seeing the bus stop for the penultimate time. They absolutely have to reverse the penalty if they show they were told by Race Control that the move was okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear that the position was not given back &#8211; Hamilton raced Raikkonen all the way down the start/finish line.</p>
<p>What is wrong is if race control told Martin Whitmarsh that the move was okay and then the stewards over-turned that decision after the race, when McLaren no longer had an opportunity to advise Lewis to properly give the place back.</p>
<p>I believe the appeal will show that McLaren were told over the radio that the move was okay, even if it wasn&#8217;t, and re-instate Hamilton as the winner. If they had said the move wasn&#8217;t okay he could have given the place back before Eau Rouge and would have passed Kimi again long before seeing the bus stop for the penultimate time. They absolutely have to reverse the penalty if they show they were told by Race Control that the move was okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.f1minute.com/2008/09/07/07-sep-08-hamilton-stripped-of-win-glock-penalised-too/#comment-1597</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are not supposed to cut chicanes to avoid accidents, why don&#039;t they put walls up around the boundary of the track, so it&#039;s not possible to leave it without damaging your car?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are not supposed to cut chicanes to avoid accidents, why don&#8217;t they put walls up around the boundary of the track, so it&#8217;s not possible to leave it without damaging your car?</p>
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		<title>By: erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferrari money wins again, the only way Lewis has a chance, is a change to ferrari, then they`d back him all the way, why should he when he has a car &amp; a team that can win.
Ferrari, if you can`t win fairly, don`t play!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferrari money wins again, the only way Lewis has a chance, is a change to ferrari, then they`d back him all the way, why should he when he has a car &amp; a team that can win.<br />
Ferrari, if you can`t win fairly, don`t play!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>used to think fia were Schumachers poodles now we know its ferraris poodle disgrace time to switch to super bikes i think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>used to think fia were Schumachers poodles now we know its ferraris poodle disgrace time to switch to super bikes i think</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.f1minute.com/2008/09/07/07-sep-08-hamilton-stripped-of-win-glock-penalised-too/#comment-1586</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Was a successful racing driver for countless seasons on several teams and held position in F1 for 11 years or more.

I really find it difficult to understand how someone can refute both an experienced and knowledgeable opinion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
so far as i can tell, they guy&#039;s out solely to boost his own profile and hasn&#039;t contributed a single worthy comment in god knows how long.  to put it politely, in my opinion, the man is an attention seeking headline whore.

i&#039;m not saying he wasn&#039;t a fast nor an extremely brave driver.  i&#039;m not questioning his abilities behind the wheel at all in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Was a successful racing driver for countless seasons on several teams and held position in F1 for 11 years or more.</p>
<p>I really find it difficult to understand how someone can refute both an experienced and knowledgeable opinion.</p></blockquote>
<p>so far as i can tell, they guy&#8217;s out solely to boost his own profile and hasn&#8217;t contributed a single worthy comment in god knows how long.  to put it politely, in my opinion, the man is an attention seeking headline whore.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not saying he wasn&#8217;t a fast nor an extremely brave driver.  i&#8217;m not questioning his abilities behind the wheel at all in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s picking on anyone here. You criticised some opinions on the site, so we both responded.

I&#039;d like to point out two things though.

1) I haven&#039;t said anything against Lauda.
2) We&#039;re not journalists.

I appreciate everyone that comes to our sites and shares their opinion. The conversation makes it what it is. We&#039;re all fans, and we&#039;re all passionate, and most likely, we&#039;re never all going to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s picking on anyone here. You criticised some opinions on the site, so we both responded.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to point out two things though.</p>
<p>1) I haven&#8217;t said anything against Lauda.<br />
2) We&#8217;re not journalists.</p>
<p>I appreciate everyone that comes to our sites and shares their opinion. The conversation makes it what it is. We&#8217;re all fans, and we&#8217;re all passionate, and most likely, we&#8217;re never all going to agree.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Since I didn’t have time to properly respond to multiple posts yesterday and your both (yourself and Christine) seem more than willing to pick on both myself and Nikki Lauda.  And, since I do have the courtesy to respond, I will. 

Who are you harming ?. Well, lets try to differentiate between fiction, fact and rumor shall we. 

a) I never said that the stewards hadn’t spoken. I simply inferred that neither Bernie Ecclestone and the FIA have commented.
b) Ferrari have spoken but have still said so little that no conclusion can be drawn. 
c) I personally have spent a lot of time (like yourself) watching the videos over and over. I, (in my opinion) Still cannot see where the problem lies. Both made incorrect movements. This is simply tit for tat !

So, Despite the words written by numerous reputable people, the fact still remains that F1 is becoming more and more unfair. I admit that I cannot spend as much time on this subject as you both can and I must say that this is a great facility that  does give something back to the supporting people of the sport (a voice maybe?). 
I am just one of these supporters that share a common grudge. 

Calm down I hear you say, well, If Christine can sit in her ivory tower and criticize a 59 year old whom was good enough to make it into Ferrari&#039;s team. Was a successful racing driver for countless seasons on several teams and held position in F1 for 11 years or more. I really find it difficult to understand how someone can refute both an experienced and knowledgeable opinion.  

Far be it from me to feel passionate about F1 but, a cup of camomile tea will not fix any of the existing problems is a sport that is clearly becoming more corrupt than cricket. 

Call me harsh, well, If a journalist can utilize the ability to communicate instead of badmouthing the people that made a difference or an positive impact on the sport then that “opinion” (in my mind) is’nt really worth listening too, madam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Since I didn’t have time to properly respond to multiple posts yesterday and your both (yourself and Christine) seem more than willing to pick on both myself and Nikki Lauda.  And, since I do have the courtesy to respond, I will. </p>
<p>Who are you harming ?. Well, lets try to differentiate between fiction, fact and rumor shall we. </p>
<p>a) I never said that the stewards hadn’t spoken. I simply inferred that neither Bernie Ecclestone and the FIA have commented.<br />
b) Ferrari have spoken but have still said so little that no conclusion can be drawn.<br />
c) I personally have spent a lot of time (like yourself) watching the videos over and over. I, (in my opinion) Still cannot see where the problem lies. Both made incorrect movements. This is simply tit for tat !</p>
<p>So, Despite the words written by numerous reputable people, the fact still remains that F1 is becoming more and more unfair. I admit that I cannot spend as much time on this subject as you both can and I must say that this is a great facility that  does give something back to the supporting people of the sport (a voice maybe?).<br />
I am just one of these supporters that share a common grudge. </p>
<p>Calm down I hear you say, well, If Christine can sit in her ivory tower and criticize a 59 year old whom was good enough to make it into Ferrari&#8217;s team. Was a successful racing driver for countless seasons on several teams and held position in F1 for 11 years or more. I really find it difficult to understand how someone can refute both an experienced and knowledgeable opinion.  </p>
<p>Far be it from me to feel passionate about F1 but, a cup of camomile tea will not fix any of the existing problems is a sport that is clearly becoming more corrupt than cricket. </p>
<p>Call me harsh, well, If a journalist can utilize the ability to communicate instead of badmouthing the people that made a difference or an positive impact on the sport then that “opinion” (in my mind) is’nt really worth listening too, madam.</p>
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